I let Bill know how well the rifle performed, mentioning this insight. DY, if you are only limiting yourself to the 110gr round, there is little benefit to the 300 Hamr. It was also over 100 degrees, only cooling to the mid 80s at night. They have successfully matched the full capability of the venerable .30-30 Winchester with a lightweight AR-15 rifle. The problem with Wilson Combat is they obviously love their guns so much that they dont want to sell them. I can6 find any reason to change from my 6.5 grendel,which is also more suitable as a long range option. of energy, compared to the Hornady Black 110-grain V-Max at 2,395 fps MV and 1,401 ft-lbs. Please read the entire post below before replying. You have entered an incorrect email address! This HAMR hammers! Max load: 26.0gr A1680 or 27.2gr H CFEBLK It's been about 3 years since I've had to load .300BLK or 5.56 (divorce, move, surgeries so I didn't shoot as much over this time frame). The main difference between these two cartridges is the way they handle bullet weights. So, you can think of it as 300 blackout on steroids. I feel some forget shot placement. yep and ill just run down to the local gun store and pick me up a box of 7.6245. I limit myself to a max of 300 yards these days. Sierra 110gr HP-V #2110, 2.160 OAL I own blackout(2 in fact14.5 & 16) 6.8spc, two 5.56 a 14.5 & 18& a 6.5 grendel & even a smith & Wesson 5.4539 uppers. I have built the 300 hamr and it does perform as advertised by Wilson combat . The 300 HAMR has cheaper bullets, cheaper brass, and uses less gunpowder. I built it for killing hogs and deer. I almost bought/built a .300 BLK upper last year but got distracted. Because it doesnt match the ballistics of the .30-30Win, which the .300Hamr was built to replicate. The test rifle was a Lightweight Hunter equipped with a Trijicon 3-9x 40mm AccuPoint scope, one of five Wilson AR-15 models offered in .300 HAMR. Wilson shipped my barrel and dies fast. If we want to doubt Barnes, then look at the Hodgdon load data for the 110gr VMax: 2474FPS, both 16 barrels. This is not unusual in mild rifle cartridges, as pointed out in my article on .22 Hornet-based rounds in Handloader No. Bill warned us that pickings would probably be slim, but he guessed he had a couple dozen big boars in the area. The firearm shoots lasers. Finally finished yesterday. Of course, bullet flight path and behavior are also all bumped up along with the extra power. 130gr Speer FNHC #2007 (OPTIMUM hunting bullet for terminal performance) Over the course of three days, we shot the hell out of several Wilson Combat guns chambered in the new cartridge. Picking and choosing, but since hunting was mentioned. Bill Wilson said he spent more time on this single project than any other in his long career, and it looks like the .300 HAMR will be a hit except among feral pigs. As said, 300 HAMR is SAAMI, so development will be documented by major industry component suppliers. Former gun slinger, current gun writer. With a 16.25-inch barrel, the .300 Hamr sends a Sierra 110-grain hollowpoint to 2,600 fps with 1,651 ft-lbs. With either Blackout or 300 HAMR, look at the rounds loaded into a magazine box and see that the larger diameter bullet in the shorter case sits down lower, nearer to the follower ridge. Wilson Combat has always prided itself on accurate weapons, and I know from previous conversations that Bill is, in his words, uninterested in inaccurate guns. Already knowing the 300 Hamr is powerful, it was time to see what groups it could produce at distance, so we spent an afternoon on the 1,200 yard range. If you use a standard 5.56 mag, youll reduce the capacity somewhat. South in body, even further south in mind, Multi-Caliber Magazine - AR-15 - 30 Rounds - Black, Multi-Caliber Magazine - AR-15 - 30 Rounds - Desert Tan. Accuracy is flat out amazing. Their shape is naturally more efficient for using energy. WARNING: Due to barrel bore dimension variations and powder lot differences WILSON COMBAT strongly recommends the use of a chronograph to work up loads in excess of the starting loads. Introduced in 2018 by Wilson Combat, the .300 Ham'r might be the best general-purpose cartridge for the AR-15 platform. https://www.cabelas.com/product/FN-SCAR-SEMI-AUTO-RIFLES/2141219.uts ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. After all, the 7.6239 delivers a .30 caliber bullet with almost the same energy as the time-proven .30-30 Winchesters. CCI450 Wonder how this compares to a .30 Grendel..?? I take it youve never detail stripped a Winchester 94 then. All loads were produced with WC 300 HAMR cases, reduce the above charge weights by 5% if using cases made from .223/5.56 brass. Recoil is virtually non-existent. Our black multi-caliber AR magazine has a unique tube design that ensures superb function between 5.56 NATO, .223, 300 Blackout and 300 HAM'R ammunition. The .300 HAM'R is to the .300 BLK what the .300 Winchester Magnum is to the .308 Winchester. As said, and as always with Wilson Combat, you can get a complete gun, complete upper or the components separately. @ $29 a hundred & $250 for barrel WOW THATS NOT HIGH , LOOK @ 6ARC BRASS OR GRENDEL BRASS + BARREL!!!!! Bill has also had great field results with the Speer 130- and 150-grain Hot-Cors. Resume coffee. Thanks for drawing my attention to the 130s. God bless Texas, I love this place, BUTit appears these photos were taken in Australia. 300 HAM'R vs 6.8 vs .308 - pistol-forum.com 300 HAM'R | Sniper's Hide Forum A lot of folks, like me, have used the ballistics of the .30-30 to justify hunting with the 300 Blackout or the 7.6239. I dont reload but those things matter to a lot of people. Ive personally killed well over 100 game animals with Winchester, Henry, and Marlin .30-30s. 300 HAM'R Rifles | Wilson Combat Aiming offhand at 100 yards turned out to be easy, a quality perhaps even more helpful than light weight in a rifle designed for rapid shooting at moving animals. of energy advantage over the .300 BLK at the muzzle. Havent seen one in years. A simple barrel swap will put you into a select group of demanding riflemen. The user has many finish options available, as well as barrel lengths and styles. For most of them, the answer was no. of energy. Recoil is lighter than what you'll typically encounter with a considerably heavier AR-10 rifle, yet the .300 Ham'r nips at the heels of the .308 in terms of performance. Instead of loading the cartridge with flat nose bullets, like the 357 Magnum uses to great terminal effect, they seem rabidly adamant on using sharp spitzers, probably to feed in AR15s, as well as placate morons who think that BC in such cartridges is super important. Velocity range 2450 2500FPS, Speer 130gr FPHC #2007, 2.175 OAL Any help would be appreciated reading the Hodgon code: I built one when WC first started selling barrels to replace the kids 300bk hunting gun. KIRAAT FARKLILIKLARININ TEFSRE ETKS - Academia.edu To me it is a winner and fun to shot . The 300 Hamr wins handily. Is the case wider? If youre going to have more powder and less magazine capacity in a 6.5mm, why not take it to the limit? The HAMR on the other hand was designed to do what many imagined the .300 Blackout could doequal the ballistics of the .30-30 Winchester. Review: Wilson Combat 300 HAM'R - The Shooter's Log Threaded Muzzle (5/824) with Thread Protector Good news is, the ammo shouldnt be difficult to get. AR-15 Calibers And Cartridges: What Should You Chamber Your Carbine? 314 (June 2018) on the excellent results achieved with Lehighs 18-grain Controlled Chaos bullet in a .17 Hornet, and this bullet proved to be equally impressive, grouping into less than an inch at just about 2,500 fps. They list both forged and billet upper receivers in several different barrel lengths, ready to ship. Uh, I get ~2200fps from 125's in .300BLK w/16"bbl., (damn near that from an 8.5" as well). Each year it takes a larger and larger share of the hunting rifle market. Looking further, the 300 Mag has a higher recoil than the 308, as the force generated by the 300 beats that the 300 Win Mag on an average by about 6 ft.lbs. The 110gr Barnes in 300BLK can be pushed fairly fast, and with OP looking at 2-300yds, the heavier supers may be marginal at that distance. That knife is made by Steve Woods and it is available on the Wilson Combat website. Do not attempt to imitate anything contained herein.The best way to keep up to date is to join m. Grendel will have better range and lighter recoil out of the same barrel length. A piezoelectric pressure laboratory did a bunch of testing with various powders, eventually settling on 58,000 psi as maximum, about halfway between the .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO. So both rounds printed multiple five-round groups under 1, I just cant verify how far under 1 at this time. With a 16.25-inch barrel, the .300 Ham'r sends a Sierra 110-grain hollowpoint to 2,600 fps with 1,651 ft-lbs. Send children to retrieve it. The most consistent accuracy occurred with 125- to 130-grain bullets and Accurate 1680, with three-shot groups usually grouping around .75 inch or less. Are these the new magnetic rounds as shown in pic. Im saying this as someone who has, and occasionally still does, hunt with one. Among the most popular have been loads for the AK/AKM47 chambered in 7.6239 and the AR-15 chambered in 300 AACBlackout. PDF 300 HAM'R LOAD DATA 9-15F1 - Wilson Combat Thought a Beretta shotgun was out of your budget? The 300 HAM'R is capable of duplicating the proven ballistics of the legendary .30-30 Winchester from a comparable barrel length. Review: Wilson Combat Ultralight Hunter - RifleShooter 125gr Sierra FNHP #2020 Bill took his 45 bull later that afternoon . None do to me. There are eight loads of 300 Hamr ammunition currently available from Wilson Combat, and more will soon be offered by HSM ammunition. For hunters, that means +400 ft./lbs. Thats a lot of variety for a round so young in its commercial life. Nope, not built for subs. And both in Wilson Combat guns. CCI450 There is a tab or something in these magazines that cause the rounds to not stack properly after some number have been inserted into the magazine. 300 Ham R vs. 300 Blackout: Battle of the AR-15s - YESTACTICAL Bill says its been dropping Arkansas wild hogs like bad habits. Reloading information, taken from the Wilson Combat website, is also included at the end of this article. Whats even better is that theyve been able to do this in a good-looking, extremely handy rifle, capable of being carried all day, anywhere you may want to hunt in North America. CCI450 Here's the comparison to the different rounds in the realm of the normal AR pattern and what you can expect to get from the .300 Ham'r: .300 HAM'R: 110 grain weight; ~2600 fps velocity; ~1650 ft. lbs. Wilson was also familiar with the 7.6240, originally the brainchild of Kurt Buchert. Magazine Capacity: 5/10/20/30 Rounds Mr. Clark, neither of the companies youve listed make a firearm in this caliber. Even the HPs make ice pick wounds. Recoil Test: .300 HAM'R vs .30-30 WIN Wilson Combat 360K subscribers Subscribe 481 21K views 4 years ago Bill Wilson and Ken Hackathorn discuss the advantages of being able to equal the. Redding also makes dies, and along with the Wilson ammunition, the Hunting Shack in Montana also makes HSM .300 HAMR loads with Sierra 135- and 150-grain bullets. I tried a few boxes of .300 HAM'R 150 grain a125-grainain rounds. My ARx39 is a 10.5 faxon Gunner profile with an enlarged gas port, carbine gas system and flaming pig. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. Its been my experience at 50 yards or less the deer I hit with the .44 Mag 240gr soft points went down quicker then with the 30-30 150 great soft points,,,,within 50 yards that is. The fact that we were already shooting in 100-degree heat probably didnt help that much. Let us know your thoughts in the comments below. Normally carry a .308 for elk. I reported in Handloader No. When the 300 Hamr was first announced, I assumed it was on the same AR-12 proprietary frame as the 458 Hamr. All 300 HAMR will do is screw up commonality of the 300 Blackout. Accuracy has been great. I chose a 16-inch 1:15 twist Recon Tactical profile from Wilson Combat and a carbine-length gas port. Contrary to what a few shooters assume, the 6.8 SPC is not the 5.56 NATO/.223 Remington necked up. It essentially duplicates the external ballistics of the .30-30 Winchester, which makes it suitable for most of the big game on the planet at least at modest ranges. Like every Wilson Combat gun Ive reviewed, all of the rifles chambered for 300 Hamr I shot exhibited excellent fit and finish. This is a great bullet in the .308 Winchester, with full-power loads duplicating 130-grain .270 Winchester muzzle velocities, trajectory and wind-drift out to 400 yards, yet it also works well with somewhat re-duced loads for recoil-sensitive hunters. WC 300 HAMR case 300 Ham'r Time with Wilson Combat's new Tactical Hunter Rifle - Review Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Pick one and enjoy. The Shaw upper and a Lancer mag loaded with the 135gr FTX projectile. They shoot 1moa at 100yds 2200fps with 25.5gr CFE Black @ 2.26" COAL SD 6. a line of ARs chambered in the new 300 Hamr, ready for purchase on the Wilson Combat website, A Pot Conviction Shouldnt Negate Your Right to Armed Self Defense, Nevada College Professor Shoots Himself To Protest President Trump, Gun Review: Springfield Armory Ronin EMP 3 9mm 1911, Gun Review: Henry U.S. To make matters worse, the neighboring property was flush with corn and the pigs were spending most of their time in the shade and plentiful food supply of the corn fields. Like Blackout, it fits a standard .223 Rem. After just a few shots, the epiphany came down. I hope to get the rifle in for more precise accuracy measurements at a later date. Not as tight as the 110vmax but a nice load to test on some hogs and see how it does. JW , most of these guys are reading data from a manual not a readout on a chrony read out. Also, some shooters learned the hard way that certain .300 Blackout loads could chamber and fire in a .223 Remington/5.56 NATO rifle with disastrous results. Millions of hunters have counted on it to bring down game for over a century, mostly in lever-action rifles. Wilson Combat has a line of ARs chambered in the new 300 Hamr, with a variety of different features and furniture. There are no visible tool marks inside or outside of the gun. Small case capacity with large diameter bullets is not going to equal great downrange performance. So the 300 Hamr beats the 300BLKs supersonic performance, as well as the 7.6239 and even the 7.62x40WT. The Hamr shoots a Hornady 150-grain SST to a muzzle velocity of 2,240 fps with 1,671 ft-lbs. While the suppressor muffled the report, the rest of the pigs immediately ran for the nearest brush due to hearing the rifles action cycling. This is not a heavyweight rifle. . I currently have a 300 HAM'R on order (ordered late 09/2020, told 3 to 4 months lead time, going on 5 months now). What about reliable? 300 HAM'R vs 6.8 vs .308 Wilson has developed the 300 HAMR for shooting supersonic loads in an AR-15 sized platform. I was showing my Uncle my 6.8 build and he was telling me about a 300 Ham'r. No, you dont. Bill Wilsons 300 HAMR flat out works. Not surprisingly, the monolithic Lehigh 110-grain bullet penetrated deepest (9 inches) while retaining 89 percent of its weight. I took it to an indoor range 25 yards and shot 20 shots into the same hole less than the size of a quarter. The AR-10 is a second rate assault rifle compared to a 5.56mm M4 due its increased weight and recoil. Put coffee down. Thats because Bill Wilson of Wilson Combat appreciates the terminal effect of the old .30-30 Winchester, but also enjoys the popular AR-15. Very few can afford a minimum $3000 for a 1911 considering you could buy 2 Sig Sauers or 2 Kimbers in 1911 of equal value for $3000. Most game drops at spot of the hit. you drop that marlin in a puddle of georgia red clay mud and you got a 5 pound stick, that wont function. This round lives up to the hype. The included Trijicon Accupoint 3-940 comes mounted and zeroed for the rifle.